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Saturday, May 13, 2006

Thinking is good for your health...;)

I've been away for a while - mostly just trawling feminist blogs and commenting and stuff. Particularly on 'I'm not a Feminist But..." where a couple of anti-feminist trolls have been stating their case for "what about white heterosexual middle class men??". Laura was posting about how particular men seem to hate women when they do bad things to them - go and read it to see what a good post it is. Also, this paragraph sums up how some men react to feminist blogs:

"This is what people seem to expect from women's blogs. All happiness and light, nothing threatening or frightening. Men in particular will be harshly critical of their female friends for not "bucking up" and pulling themselves out of a situation by sheer grit and determination. I see men criticize women for caring about what others think (ignoring the fact that women are taught from birth to adjust their behavior based on the reactions of those around them), I see men criticize women for being "so broken up" over rape, and blame them for blaming themselves (see, when it happens to us guys, we blame the person who did it, not ourselves! - ignoring that all of society blames a woman for being raped, but sees the rape of a man as the ultimate tragedy) I see men criticize women for not speaking up more (oblivious to their own hypocrisy of criticizing them for speaking up even in their own blog.) "Get over it!" is the message. "Stop bothering us with your unplesant feelings! We don't care that this world makes you miserable - in fact, we think all your misery is your own fault!"

Being the rebellious brat I have been my entire life, my response to this kind of unfair pressure is to sulk even more visibly. I realize this may not work for everyone, but I would like to encourage any woman reading this not to give in to the pressure to squelch your feleings in order to make someone else more comfortable. After all, when men have problems, women are supposed to be understanding and sympathetic. Why should we not expect the same treatment in return?" (From 'Screaming into the Void')

Why on earth do so many people slag off feminists and turn it around and say they are sexist for wanting to make things better for women without thinking about men too? If men want to make things better then they are welcome to do it but not at the expense of feminists and women because they are the other half of the world. Men do hate women when they think misogynistic thoughts and objectify women and make 'jokes' about their bodies (ie. breast remarks, etc) and hurt them.

I've been educating myself much more on feminism and figuring out the arguments and finding that I agree with them. It seems absurd once you think about all of the things once you are enlightened: why women have to change their names to show their 'availability' like Miss and Mrs and so on. Men don't have to do this at all - they stay Mr their whole lives. Why women have to change their surnames and men don't. Why women are socialised from birth to wear pink, to wear restricting clothes that don't allow them to run around freely and safely. If little boys had to wear skirts and shoes with slippery soles, there would be a public outcry! Why girls are told to be 'polite' and that they should apologise for things that boys don't - like having a loud laugh instead of a giggle.

I've also been thinking about male privilege. Now, I know we have made waves with women being in employment and so on. But think about it: most of the top jobs in the country are men. Understand: to all the people who think I'm saying it is men's fault and men's fault only: no, I am not 'blaming' men, I am saying that patriarchy is to blame. It is inherent in our socialisation, in our culture, in organisations, to the point at which there are many more women disadvantaged compared to men. I DO blame the men who hurt women, rape them and force them to do things that make them unhappy, who use pornography and think it's okay to treat a woman as you would in a porn film.

Women are PEOPLE, not sex objects. Neither are men sex objects. We all think of men as people so why doesn't society see women as people? Is it because they do the most wonderfully important job of giving birth to our future generations? I respect mothers, they have a rough deal: it's not enough to bring up a child, but they have to be a housewife, career person and sex object all at once. That is what some men think. That is the height of misogyny.

Male privilege means that in a lot of things, men are considered first, women second. I don't want women to be considered first but I want them to be considered as human beings too. Not as sex objects for men to look at, but as human beings that they engage with on intellectual and social levels. I'm not discounting that we all have sexual urges: but there are many myths about male and female sexuality. Women are more emotional because they haven't repressed themselves emotionally. Men are so called 'less' emotional because they are suppressing their feelings. This isn't healthy.

In sociology I learnt that men feel the pressure to 'measure up' to a macho stereotype: and if they don't, they are seen as 'feminine', 'weak', 'a girl'. WHY is being called a 'girl' an insult? For me, although I am emotional, I see it as being passionate about things. I'm passionate about life, about love, about the things I care about. Why is macho language geared up to seeing that anything unmacho is 'feminine' or 'weak'? The implication is that women are weak. On the contrary, I think allowing yourself to express your emotions makes you stronger. It releases tension, allows yourself to get through it and feel better. When I cry, I feel better afterwards, more relaxed and ready to face problems. When I feel sad, I allow myself to feel sad and write about it or listen to music. I don't think emotion is 'feminine'; I think it is human.

If we stop feeling things, we become numb. We hurt ourselves, allow ourselves to be hurt. We become tolerant of violence in the news, in films, real violence happening in front of us. We become numb to the possibility of life, of how we can be happy, fulfilled human beings. If we are numb; we have no compassion, we allow bad things to happen to other people, to animals and children. A lot of things in this society I think have numbed people, we cannot help but see visions of violence and tragedy on TV and in newspapers and just forget them, or feel a particular indifference. I am teaching myself to feel when I watch TV and films, which is why I am having reactions out of the usual and shouting at the screen. If we become indifferent to pain then life becomes meaningless.

Think about the pain women have to endure: waxing, childbirth, sexist comments, space invasion, rape, violence, blaming (women often get blamed for things that their partners do when married, believe it or not) and are discredited when they try to highlight these problems. Some people have said that men get raped too - and yes they do, but they get raped by other MEN. I don't exactly know what the answer is, but I think in the meantime people should stop doing things that objectify women (and men) and begin to think of women in terms of a brain, a heart and personality. Not breasts, butts and legs or whatever. Not a body, but a person.

Have a good weekend! :)

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8 Comments:

  • Yep, I know it's not only men that objectify women. You're right, sometimes I find myself thinking about myself in terms of 'how do I look today?' I also feel pressure to look a certain way at times. Women gossip about celebrities and how they look: talking about their clothes as if they are mannequins etc. Not sure if that is objectifying but I think it may be.

    Thanks for commenting :)

    By Blogger Liz, At 10:14 am  

  • I've also been reading the comments at I blame the patriarchy and found it difficult to think straight after all that shouting and twisting of the issue. It's great to read your response, and I agree that expressing emotions is such a beneficial thing.

    I had a friend at university who told me she hadn't cried since she was a child. She found my emotional reactions frightening, but I just felt really sorry for her. It seemed that she could never truly express what she was feeling because she was worried about what would escape.

    By Blogger la somnambule, At 5:07 pm  

  • That's terrible, I realise it must be hard for some people to let go of repressed emotions. Some people don't give themselves a break when it comes to letting themselves feel things - maybe it's all these expectations and worrying about what people think. Emotion is connected to being 'feminine' therefore I think sometimes even women are afraid to let go as they want to see themselves as 'strong'. I think it's stronger to let go and let it all out.

    Thanks for posting :)

    By Blogger Liz, At 10:55 pm  

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    By Blogger Liz, At 12:56 pm  

  • Leederick - I realise that feminist 'rhetoric' does sometimes 'alienate' some men - but you are not looking deep enough. I have been hurt in a sexist way for much of my life. I have been almost sexually coerced, had my space invaded by strange men and I get stared at alot just cos I'm a woman. I'm also deaf so I recieve twice the amount of discrimination as a deaf woman. I live in fear that I may be raped one day. I don't allow myself to go out in the dark on my own unless I'm sure I am fully alert and there are lots of people around. I am doubly in fear because I KNOW that I will not be able to hear a potential rapist walking behind me unless I see them - I constantly check to see whether there is another shadow behind me.

    Men don't usually have these kind of fears, unless they have been raped or abused themselves.

    I am not discounting that I have grown up cushioned from poverty or anything like that. BUT I have fought and struggled my way through education because I am a deaf woman. It might not have anything much to do with being a woman (which is why I am also an advocator of disability/deaf rights), but I KNOW what it is like to be a woman.

    Just because you leave university with a degree doesn't mean you get a great job. When I apply for a job I know that several things mean I may be discriminated against: the fact that I am a deaf person, the fact that I am a woman of 'child bearing age' and the fact that I am overweight.

    I KNOW that there are men out there who are oppressed. But they will never be as oppressed as women are right now. Women are often judged on how they look: appearances are more important to our society nowadays than intelligence. I know it's hard for men to understand why feminists argue what they do until they sit down, stop complaining and actually educate themselves about what feminism is about. Feminism encompasses a great many things.

    Feministing.org is a feminist hating site. In no ways does it take ANYTHING women or feminists say seriously. I suggest you not read that site and instead read all the sites that talk about the real problems: the rape/abuse of women (and men), the violence inherent in our society, the objectification of women (and men) and many other things besides.

    University education doesn't really have anything to do with it. There are a lot of feminists out there living in poverty who have had to struggle. My education, if anything, has made me more aware of discrimination against women (Gender and Society sociology module). The reason men feel alienated by feminism is that it questions things. It questions the thing that men all over the world use: pornography. It questions why when men look at women, they more often than not see a body and not a person. I've seen it happen too often to doubt this 'rhetoric'.

    The systems of Patriarchy is what I am questioning. I have men in my life: far from hating them, I think they understand where I am coming from. I'm sorry if you feel feminism alienates men, it is just trying to make the world a better place, particularly for women as they are definitely given the rougher deal.

    By Blogger Liz, At 12:59 pm  

  • "They feel you are victimising them by condemning their sex. Sure 'men' are in many of the positions of power in this country, but I'm sure they feel Tony Blair and his ilk have much more in common with the York educated Fallingstar, the Birmingham educated La Somnambule, or the Sheffield educated Laura, than with lots of men in this country - most of whom don't get to go to university."

    In all honesty I have not met a person who classes themselves as a feminist who has not thought about and analysed their own privilege. I am certainly aware that my own position as a white western university educated person gives me this 'privilege' over other people within my community.

    Nevertheless alongside this I am also a woman and thus subject to victimisation because of my sex. For this reason I am oppossed to and speak out against the patriarchy.

    We live in a society that gives people advantages or holds them back for various different reasons. You can be privileged or you can be oppressed because of things beyond your own control. What is important is that you recognise what is happening and why, and fight against prejudice and oppression.

    I have found that feminists are inherently aware of the power relations within our society and assess their own position within this openly. Unfortunately many of the commenter at Laura's blog have failed to assess their own position in the same way. Fair enough my skin colour, my education, and my birth place give me enormous advantages. No argument. But most of these anti feminists have the same advantages or more. Yet they take any assessment of their own privilege as a personal insult without really considering the impact it has.

    I hope I have expressed myself ok - I'm not wearing my glasses and am in a rush to get to a criminal law class!

    By Blogger la somnambule, At 1:58 pm  

  • Hi la somnambule!

    Yep, you are right - I wouldn't argue that I am not privileged to be at university and so on. Most feminists are extremely aware of privileges that they have. I think they/we are aware that we ourselves may think in a way that ensure our thought processes can be misogynistic in some ways (such as when we call another woman a derogatory term, or when we look at our bodies in a mirror - Feminist First has a great post about this). I have certainly been guilty of 'gossiping' about celebrities in terms of their bodies and so on. But I'm finding that the more I learn about feminism, the more I understand that patriarchy wants us to 'gossip', to hate female celebrities because they are women (the whore/virginal stereotype and so on).

    I think with education and privelege we are also given responsibility. People in power don't recognise this (ie.Tony Blair, John Prescott) - they are in a position to maybe do something about the things that matter. I also think education helps us to form our own opinions about the world around us (although I'm not saying that only education does this - experience does too).

    Your comment was great, rush or not! :)

    By Blogger Liz, At 5:26 pm  

  • Hi Leederick,

    I understand why some people might misinterpret the whole men as a class/women as a class thing. But I don't really think we're being sexist to say that 'men' oppress women - it is pretty much a figure of speech like saying 'the disabled' and so on. I think the problem is language generally, as 'disabled' isn't a positive term.

    When I say men (or 'some' men), I don't mean ALL men, I'm criticising the men that hurt/rape/abuse/objectify women, which is, unfortunately, a large number :( I don't think theres any other way of categorising it - after all, we are talking about gender constructions, how there is a rape culture and pornography culture and so on. For example, the idea that ALL women are intrinsically a certain way(eg. feminine).

    I certainly don't think all men are intrisically bad; they just need to be re-educated about things, to see that misogyny and so on is disempowering to women. A lot of women also treat themselves and others as sex objects, as bodies to be used, and it shouldn't be like this.

    If there was any other way of putting it, other than 'men as a class' or 'women as a class', then it would be welcome, although we should never ignore statistics or the problems that women have (as a class).

    I realise you're not a 'troll', as you haven't necessarily failed to listen to what is being said.

    By Blogger Liz, At 11:55 am  

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